Very few Cameroonians have a clue
about the mining sector in the country. It is such a limited domain, given the
natural and expensive nature of the field. Minerals cannot be found everywhere;
not any Tom and Jack too can get into this domain, given the intricacies
involved. If Cameroonians have been ignorant, then Dr. Fuh Calistus Gentry has
made things more pellucid.
He is the Secretary of State for
Mines, Industries and Technological Development. On Sunday June 5, 2012, he was
guest over the CRTV morning program, Cameroon Calling. Dr. Fuh Calistus, a
geologist himself did not only give an inkling but went into the depths about
mining in Cameroon.
Chronicle listened to the
palpitating interview and herewith published it in its entirety. Excerpts:
Your Excellency, let’s know a
little about the mining potentials of Cameroon.
Cameroon
is sitting at the centre of a huge iron ore belt, within the Central African
sub region; deposits in Gabon,
Benin, Congo and then deposits lined-up
from Mbalam right to the coast in Kribi. In fact, iron ore deposits are being
investigated even in the North West
region. Let me indicate there that the industrialization process in America is centred around the Great
Lakes: (belts where the iron and steel industry developed).
So this is a new phenomenon,
which is striving everyone out here. Today, the Chinese are almost buying out
the Australians, a comity we had the concertion initially, were almost a
monopoly in this domain. It is a phenomenon that is attracting the world to Cameroon, not
withstanding the fact that we also have some key world class deposits, like the
nickel-copper deposits, uranium, diamonds, etc.
This has made us a place where
everybody thinks he is missing out something which is not here.
You have been talking so much
about foreign companies coming: are they no Cameroonians in this sector in
terms of the finances to carrying out either exploration or exploitation and in
terms of the know-how
We are not really reinventing the
will. Mining starts with the small people taking up licenses, doing what they
can; inviting bigger people to come-in. presently we have slightly over 160
exploration licenses. Most of these belong to Cameroonians. But most of them
are dormant because they do not have requisite capital to carry out
exploration. Ventures like the ones I move along with many mining companies are
meant to bring investors to get involved in what Cameroonians have initiated.
If I say the Mbalam project is
worth $5 billion: this is not the kind of ventures Cameroonians would get into.
But the artisernal industry is robust in the East which is entirely a domain
where Cameroonians are working with an outfit known as CAPAM.
But wherever in the world, the
small players always start the game and somewhere along the line, the bigger
boys get in. This is just what is happening here.
Let’s compare the mining and
forestry sectors: with the forestry, there is a percentage to do here in Cameroon and
another percentage out. Does this apply same with the mining sector?
I have played a very active role
to revise the mining code recently. In this new revision, we have a sloth in
which 15% must be transformed locally (for example for 35 million tonnes of
iron produced in one mine in a year, the new code demands that 15% must be
transformed locally). We are not ending there.
We have taken initiatives where
recently, the Korean company by the name ‘POSCO’ one of the largest iron and steel
industrial concerns in the world signed a memorandum of undertaking with us.
We are also developing a project
known as ‘FECUNA’. Iron in the scientific name is ‘Ferus, cobalt, nickel,
aluminum, whereby we want to design projects and see how we will get the local
sector to start preparing for what is going to be a big industrial uphill in Cameroon.
One would have expected that with
all these projects coming up, the government should have had at least a project
to create an iron and steel industry to process much of the iron. Is that very
far or can we already start thinking that we may one day have an iron and steel
industry in Cameroon?
We have signed a memorandum of
understanding with POSCO of Korea. The real terms of this memorandum of
understanding is to lay down the framework for developing an iron and steel
industry in Cameroon.
I also talked to you about the
FECUNA project, which is going to see much about involving local people in how
iron ore, 15% according to the new law, has to be transformed locally.
On that front, we are doing a lot
and will continue working with other big iron and steel concerns in the world,
to lay the foundation of this transformation.
One major problem which we are
more likely to face is that some of these big companies might come, almost all
of their staff, given that in Cameroon
we don’t have the trained manpower in mineral exploitation. What has your
ministry been doing in terms of training the people who can occupy good
positions in the big companies that are coming?
A mining school in the University of Ngaoundere has just gone operational. In
the recent forum, we involved people from the science department in the University of Yaounde. We do encourage the
universities in Cameroon
to put the mining subjects strongly in their curricular.
But notwithstanding, the ministry
is aware of this problem; reason why we had a very big chunk in the recruitment
of 25.000.
We are overhauling our staff and
training them so that those who are facing out will liaise with those who are coming
new. Despite that there will always be need for some kind of expertise.
Our mining code and mining
conventions also regulates the quota that must be allocated to local employees.
Cameroon
possesses this diversed mineral resources in large quantity but it is just now
that many people are hearing about minerals in Cameroon. What was the problem?
Things as you have just seen
round the forum; we have traveled round the world telling people: Cameroon is a
very stable nation; that it has a very strong energy policy; with a sound
mining code which gives a lot of incentives to investors. An agglomeration of
these factors has influenced most people to take a risk with us. And in the
mine industry, once people come and make noise, this is like ringing a bell for
other people to follow.
Recently, we had some members of
parliament (MPs) raising concerns about the award of exploration and
exploitation permits in forest reserve. What are you doing about that?
When you are awarded a mining
exploration permit (license), it can cover 1000km2. A forest reserve might be
inside or might interfere with the forest reserve. It doesn’t mean we mark out
a forest reserve entirely. Even at the initial stage, it doesn’t pose much
problems because exploration is an art. You don’t go digging and clearing the
forest. You do small digging, clearing, small drilling; take samples, which in
its initial stages do not per se have any impact in the forest.
The danger comes when you might
find a big deposit, which may be sitting in this forest. At such a time, it is
about priorities. If we have a deposit which is going to be the largest gold
deposit in the world inside the forest reserve, it becomes an issue to be
discussed as a national priority. But so far, we have not had such cases. I don’t
think we really go out to give licenses in a forest area per se. Sometimes the
forest areas are part of the licensed area.
Some months ago there was this
controversy over the actual quantity of diamond reserves that we have in Cameroon. Can
you give us a clearer idea on this?
There is a rate at which we are
set about exploration in Cameroon:
companies do exploration and they tell us what they find. Even in iron ore, we
are planning to develop a kind of investigative procedure, where, when there is
drill core, the company would analyze half and it is expected that they would
give us a quantity, where we can do random checks and verifications of what
they find.
But the case of diamond is
peculiar and particular because it has an erratic occurrence. Now, this
particular company found diamond in two environments: alluvia (which is
surface) and conglomerate (which projects down to even depths of 500m and
above).
They did an evaluation and in
giving them the mining license, we made it very clear that they have to
initially start mining in the surface part and had an obligation to spend at
least 2.5 million dollars to concretize the reserves in the conglomerate part.
They are moving well with their
project. To say exact, we have given them time to make exact the figures. But
they gave us a production schedule for over 25 years.
Our concern now is to see that
their production schedule is respected. The license however made it very clear
that they had to over a given period of time, come out with a clearer
definition of the size of this deposit.
The mining industries are already
coming in their great numbers. What guideline has government put in place to
make sure that the surrounding population actually benefits enormously from
what would be carried out?
You can look at it from what the
law says. There are royalties which are negotiated in the mining convention and
regulated by the mining code, which have to do directly with the area, where
this deposit or mining activities are taking place.
On the other hand, the mining
process is huge. If we say there is going to be a railway line of 500km, which
is going to, in the final run, handle deposits from Congo,
Gabon,
in fact, the impact is huge: it is beyond our imagination. It takes $2 billion
to build the railway. Just the earthwork alone is over 700 billion FCFA. So
these are industries with a very huge impact; that touch people in terms of
jobs. Even the net effects of their activity cannot go unnoticed.
We have a Ministry of Environment
which is a watchdog to see that the activities are done within the tenets of
preserving our environment. If a mineral activity is not justifiable, that its
impact economically is not that which is worth disturbing the lives of people,
we don’t go ahead with it; reason why sometimes, we talk of an environmental
impact. This liaises with what the economic impact of this deposit would have
on the people. So when one outweighs the other, certainly we find that it would
better the lives of the people in that immediate environment and most important,
the live of everybody in this nation.
You talked about minerals
including diamond. Now, for Cameroon
to sell diamond on the international market, she needs to be part of the
‘Kimberly Process’. Where are we, in terms of this process?
We have gone through the process:
we have attended the initial meetings in Kinshasa.
This ministry headed a mission to Washington.
Here our files for adhesion to the Kimberly process will be completed. If not,
certainly sometimes this year, we should finally be in the Kimberly process.
We know how much the oil sector
pumps into the state budget of Cameroon.
Is it possible to know what contribution the mining sector would also pump into
this national budget?
We are sizing up what we have;
signing conventions to develop. Conventions mean asking and negotiating what
taxes and royalties would be paid. This is a stage of evaluation.
We have a whole set of rules,
which I will refer you to our mining code, which states what corporate tax
every company would pay; what kind of concessions you give as a tax holiday;
companies invest huge amounts of money. If you were to invest $5 billion to get
something going, you can imagine. Most of the moneys are invested during
exploration. Given a period, if you don’t pay, that money is deducted from your
taxation scheme.
So these are a whole range of
things that are negotiated during a mining convention. In the Mbalam convention
that was finalized, there are guiding principles in terms of taxation. Unless a
convention is completed, we cannot say exactly because we have to evaluate the
amount of money the company put in exploration; deduct part of this expenses,
so that it has a kind of tax holiday period in which to recuperate
economically.
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